Still puzzling over my snails though. Here's two of them, top and bottom, both removed from the walls of the house in a rural garden:
Snail 1 - 10mm wide, 7 mm high - 5+ whorls, large umbilicus, no obvious lip, not keeled. Dark, blotchiness showing through towards centre particularly. I don't think I'd call this glossy, waxy or particularly translucent? But if I follow the key for the Helicoidea, I end up at (a small) Trochulus striolatus, which I think has a lip. If it is glossy, then perhaps this is Oxychilus cellarius? But it doesn't really look glossy enough?
Snail 2 might be the same thing but paler. I don't know how variable shell colour is. Size just slightly smaller at about 9mm wide, 6 mm high.
Any suggestions gratefully received!
Don't think either of these are Oxychilus mate. Just not transparent/glossy enough and the ribbing seems way too strong. Roll a few logs in woodland and prod any glossy looking snails with a bit of stick. Oxychilus normally give off a garlicky waft when prodded (but not all of them!) Oxychilus are proper smooth and shiny, as if wet and have blue/grey bodies.ReplyDelete
Thanks Seth, think I agree. Whittling down the options anyway!ReplyDelete
What I am identifying as Oxychilus (the draparnaudi pic the other day was 14 mm diam) are much smoother and glassier than these. The unmbillicus looks a lot smaller, shallower and less open than your pics too.ReplyDelete
Hi Andy, this is copied from what I just posted on Mark Lawlor's post, thought it may come in handy here too?ReplyDelete
One thing that I learned today is that O.cellarius has fine brown spotting on the mantle, which O.draparnaudi (the other non-garlicky big one) doesn't have. However, I found 4 large Oxychilus today which were pale-bodied enough for O.cellarius but lacked the spotted mantle. Maybe there's a cryptic species lurking?
I've really struggled with snails in the past and I still leave some unidentified. But I'm sure both these are Trochulus. Oxychilus and Aegopinella are smoother and shinier, less opaque.ReplyDelete
Not sure which Trochulus - a side-on shot would be useful. But those paler individuals like your 2nd pic are usually striolatus.
Thanks all. I think I'm coming to the conclusion that these are indeed Trochulus striolatus. No sign of any hairs. I've just noticed that this is sometimes known as the Strawberry Snail; probably a coincidence but I do have a load of strawberries growing by the house...ReplyDelete